Saturday, September 15, 2018

Mark 8:27-38




Mark 8:27-38 (NRSV)
27 Jesus went on with his disciples to the villages of Caesarea Philippi; and on the way he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that I am?” 28 And they answered him, “John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; and still others, one of the prophets.” 29 He asked them, “But who do you say that I am?” Peter answered him, “You are the Messiah.” 30 And he sternly ordered them not to tell anyone about him.
31 Then he began to teach them that the Son of Man must undergo great suffering, and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests, and the scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. 32 He said all this quite openly. And Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. 33 But turning and looking at his disciples, he rebuked Peter and said, “Get behind me, Satan! For you are setting your mind not on divine things but on human things.”
34 He called the crowd with his disciples, and said to them, “If any want to become my followers, let them deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. 35 For those who want to save their life will lose it, and those who lose their life for my sake, and for the sake of the gospel, will save it. 36 For what will it profit them to gain the whole world and forfeit their life? 37 Indeed, what can they give in return for their life? 38 Those who are ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of them the Son of Man will also be ashamed when he comes in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.”

Mark 8:27-30 is a story of the profession of faith by Peter. Historically, some scholars see no problem as to the possibility that the disciples might have wondered if Jesus were the Messiah. The disciples would hardly have left everything if this were not the case.[1] A similar episode occurs in Gospel of Thomas 13:1-8. We can also see a similar scene in John 1:35-42 and 6:66-69.

            In the context of Mark, Jesus is clearly a man on the move. From the beginning of the gospel, Jesus has traveled from Nazareth to the banks of the Jordan (1:9), to the region of Galilee (1:14), to Capernaum (1:21), to the country of the Gerasenes (5:1), to Gennesaret (6:53), to Tyre (7:24), to the district of Dalmanutha (8:10), to Bethsaida (8:22) and now to Caesarea Philippi (8:27). Jesus has been up and down a mountain (3:13) and across the sea and back (4:35; 5:21; 7:31; 8:13). In all of his travels, he has been preaching and teaching, healing and telling stories. Along the way, Jesus and his disciples have talked about his use of parables (4:10), the way they are to behave when they travel in his name (6:7-11), and how to feed 9,000 people (6:37; 8:4). However, the conversation they have on the way to Caesarea Philippi will be like no other. What is at issue now is not what Jesus does, but who he is — the question of identity.

A journey implies movement from here to there. Therefore, in characterizing discipleship as a journey, we are saying that it is a long process. Get ready for growth. Get ready for surprise. As with any journey, there are times when we wonder if the journey is working. We have setbacks, long stretches of boredom when the scenery is not that interesting. The call to discipleship requires certain disciplines for keeping at it. The journey, like any journey, is not always easy. Perhaps your journey with Jesus began with a flash of light and great enthusiasm. However, eventually, over time, enthusiasm wanes. The exciting journey of faith becomes less exciting. If we are Christians for any length of time, we know that trials, suffering, and temptations are part of our growth in discipleship. True life change only begins at our conversion. It takes training, trying, suffering, and even dying, as our passage suggests, before we experience the healing and liberating power of the gospel.[2]

            From the beginning, who Jesus is has been an issue, but not as pressing as this passage displays. Who is this man who is able to issue the command, “Come, follow me,” and people do so immediately (1:18, 20)? They ask for no other explanation, no other proof of credentials. The unclean spirits know who Jesus is (1:24; 5:7), but they are commanded to remain silent. The readers know who Jesus is. We have read Mark’s prologue (1:1-13). However, the disciples have not. They, along with the rest of the crowd, continue to piece together who Jesus is. They have had experiences that show there is something special about the man they are following. Jesus himself has dropped hints (2:10, 28). Even King Herod has wondered aloud about who Jesus is    perhaps God has raised John the Baptist from the dead (6:14-16)? However, the only title the disciples have given Jesus, to this point, is “Teacher[3]” (4:38).

            As the familiar journeying motif of Mark continues, Jesus is about to take the disciples to a place they would never have imagined. The disciples have just witnessed some of the most impressive demonstrations of Jesus' powers. Jesus had fed a crowd of 5,000 on five barley loaves and two fish (Mark 6:30‑44). He had walked across water to join his disciples aboard ship (Mark 6:45‑52). Further along on their journey, Jesus had healed a Gentile girl who was demon possessed and a man who could neither speak nor hear (Mark 7:24‑37). Yet another feeding miracle was recorded by Mark (8:1‑10): this time 4,000 fed by seven loaves. Finally, Jesus had healed a blind man, fully restoring the man's vision (Mark 8:22‑26).

27 Jesus went on with his disciples to the villages of Caesarea Philippi, 25 miles from Bethsaida, an area well known for its many temples, especially to Pan.[4] The Cave of Pan is at the foot of Mount Hermon, north of the Golan Heights. Greek and Roman myth identified it as one of the entrances to Hades, though the other caves are in Greece. The conversation that contains this dramatic and geographic watershed begins innocently enough. Jesus and the disciples journey far to the northeast and enter Caesarea Philippi. This may separate the disciples from the crowds who have often surrounded them up to this point in the narrative. On the way, in this distant corner of the countryside, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that I am?” The point here is the polarity between knowledge and ignorance about the identity and mission of Jesus. It is obvious from the recent discussion in 8:14-21 that Jesus’ followers are woefully far from comprehending the exact nature of Jesus’ power and authority. To his initial question, the disciples give three answers. 28 They answered him, “John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; and still others, one of the prophets.” The surmisings of others, recounted by the disciples, are as complimentary as they are incomplete.  Furthermore, these are the same possibilities considered by King Herod as he anguished over his execution of John the Baptist in 6:14-16.  Both Mark’s readers and apparently the disciples themselves can hear the wrongness in these titles. While they may be acceptable answers from the other citizens of the region, Jesus’ next question reveals a hope for more from those closest to him (including the readers). 29 He asked them, “But who do you say that I am?” Here is a further hint to his disciples that they should know something more.  Earlier Jesus tells them God has given them the secret of the rule of God. Will their answer reveal the secret they have received? Peter answered him, “You are the Messiah (Χριστός)[5].” The outspoken Peter is the first to respond. Peter has not shown any predilection for supernatural revelation at this point. Whether he is speaking for himself or the group is unclear. This is the first time any of the disciples have successfully comprehended the identity of Jesus.  It is a job description. In this setting, the statement of faith by the disciple is what is memorable. It becomes a model for others. The affirmation of faith by Peter is the watershed in the narrative of Mark. The tension of the story of Jesus has built up to this climax. The Christological question posed and answered, Mark will focus upon the fulfillment of the messianic mission of Jesus as he moves toward cross and resurrection. We can see the geographical symbolism as Jesus from the northerly point of the travels of Jesus high among the mountains to the southern mountain on which Jerusalem rests.[6] These verses have parallels in other passages. In John 6:66-69, many disciples turned away from Jesus because of the difficulty of his teaching. Jesus asked the twelve if they also wished to turn away from following, but Simon Peter said they had no one else to whom to turn, for he had the words of eternal life. “We have come to believe and know that you are the Holy One of God.” In John 11:25-27, Jesus informs Mary, “I am the resurrection and the life.” Mary responds, “Yes, Lord, I believe that you are the Messiah, the Son of God, the one coming into the world.” The Gospel of Thomas 13 has an unusual exchange that will contrast the special relationship Thomas had with Jesus versus the relationship the other twelve had with Jesus. Clearly, this passage disparages Peter and Matthew in particular and elevates Thomas. It comes from a time when Gnostic believers were making clear their distinction from the apostolic churches. Peter’s astonishing declaration also opens the door for even more profound misconceptions.  He will have significance only as he embraces the path of suffering that Jesus will follow.[7] Messianic expectations were primarily triumphalist, promising political deliverance of Israel and its restoration to power.  Mark uses this title seven times in his gospel (1:1; 8:29; 9:41; 12:35; 13:21; 14:61; 15:32). At times it is translated “Messiah”; other times “the Christ.” The title harkens back to the Jewish understanding of “the Anointed One” — one who had been anointed by God for a special purpose. In the Old Testament, one sees this primarily in relation to kings and priests and carries the connotation that not only has God chosen the person, but God has also empowered the person. It can refer to the anointing of Aaron and his sons (Exodus 29:21), the anointing by the Lord of Saul (I Samuel 10:1, 6), David (I Samuel 16:13), and the anointing by the Lord of the prophet (Isaiah 61:1). It was a title of honor and majesty. A warrior prince would conduct a crusade that would liberate the nation and lift Jerusalem to eminence for the entire world to see. The anointed one anticipated the triumph of Israel over its foes. “God’s Messiah” was the name of the prince in the Psalms of Solomon (50 BC). Jewish people welcome him as a conquering hero.[8] Yes, Jesus is the Messiah, the Christ, but this messiahship brings a salvation radically different than anyone had expected. Yet, while we have here an affirmation of faith, this statement is not properly a confession of faith. Had Peter offered such a confession on the night of the arrest of Jesus, in the presence of people who would have opposed him, then he would have confessed his faith in Jesus.[9]

30 He sternly ordered them not to tell anyone about him. The fact that Jesus tells them to tell no one is understandable, given the political implications of the title. The fact that Peter has a wrong‑headed notion of what messianic duties are will come soon enough. He did not understand the job description of Messiah in the same way as Jesus did. Jesus tried to stop people from telling about his deeds or magnifying his person. Since the days of W. Wrede it has been customary to trace these features to Mark and to find in them the theory of a messianic secret that traces back to the post-Easter knowledge by the community of the majesty of Jesus to non-messianic traditions of his earthly appearance. Mark, however, refers to the regard that the work of Jesus evoked and that led to the post-Eater awareness of his divine sonship. Such an account contains traces of a traditional realization that Jesus was aware of the ambivalence into which his message thrust him and that he tried to counteract it.[10]

Some would argue that such a Christ-centered affirmation of faith is nothing more than the theological counterpart of geocentrism in cosmology. It represents an anachronistic absolutizing of our own contingent place in the scheme of things. Thus, the center of our religious history is also the sole hope of salvation for the rest of humanity. The history of world religion teaches us that while there are high points, an absolute center does not exist.[11] Yet, ever since Peter makes this affirmation of faith, the church understands its uniqueness in this way. What makes Christians who they are is Jesus. If God had given the church a book, it might become a noble philosophy of life or a system of virtues. What the church has instead is one who came in Jewish flesh and through whom God saves. He was the son of a Jewish carpenter, he lived briefly, he died violently at 30, and he unexpectedly rose from the dead. The church believes it has seen as much of God that it hopes to see in this life. Even in his own time, maybe especially, the identity of Jesus was hardly self-evident. Some believed or hoped he was the promised Messiah and eventually believed he was God come to humanity in the flesh. Others thought he was crazy. Since the time of Jesus, many others have undertaken to identify Jesus. H. S. Reimarus (1691-1768) said Jesus was a Jewish revolutionary figure who died a disappointed failure. David Friedrich Strauss (1808-74) showed how this was the case by removing the miraculous elements of the Gospels. Ernest Renan (1823-92) offered a romantic picture of Jesus as a strange, sweet, spirited poet and a great moral teacher and example. H. J. Holtzmann (1832-1910) portrayed Jesus as a teacher of timeless ethical truth. Johannes Weiss (1863-1914) returned attention to the kingdom of God as an apocalyptic, end of the world notion that ended in a disappointed Jesus. Albert Switzer would largely agree with this assessment. These authors made their decisions regarding Jesus. The question for us, of course, is the decision we make regarding Jesus. Such scholars ought to remind us that our images of Jesus will often reflect our aspirations. Yet, Jesus keeps breaking free of our limited images.[12]

The incomprehensible and ineffable nature of ultimate reality will make sure many persons will hesitate to accept such a claim. After all, it seems arrogant to claim one religious description of reality as superior to rival descriptions. Further, no tradition can reasonably claim exclusive rights to the means of salvation. Many Christians, desiring not to give offense, will back away from the uniqueness of the saving work of Christ. Yet, the affirmation of this nonexclusive particularity of salvation in Christ may well be the condition for genuine respect from others.[13] When it comes to such matters, the secularity of this age moves us toward a stance of perpetual detachment. We are onlookers. We stand back and watch the world go past us. We are like perpetual tourists, just passing through without actually landing anywhere. We can quickly learn the basic teachings of Buddhism, Islam, and even the teachings of Jesus. Yet, the church still asks, “However, what do you believe? On what will you bet your life? What commitment, which attachment, will determine how you live, move, and have your being?” At some point, the church does not care what 9 in 10 Americans believe. What do you believe? When it comes to religious matters, we can find so many different opinions and conflicting points of view. We seem to have no place to stand where we can determine what is right. Yet, making no decision is adopting a point of view. You are socially acceptable and intellectually humble if you admit you have no point of view or settle down and admit to having a position. True, you will not know everything. You will not have settled all possible questions. Yet, to find the words that locate you in a relationship with “the way, the truth, and the life” is to find a rock on which to stand and build your life.

We have developed far more complex affirmations of faith than we see from Peter. The Council of Chalcedon in 431 adopted its creed. The creed defines that Christ is “acknowledged in two natures,” which “come together into one person and one hypostasis.” The formal definition of “two natures” in Christ sides with Western and Antiochene Christology and diverges from the teaching of Cyril of Alexandria, who always stressed that Christ is “one.” Regarding the person of Christ and the Hypostatic union, Chalcedonian Creed affirmed the notion that Christ is “One Person,” having “One Hypostasis.” The creed states explicitly the Christological notions of “One Person” (monoprosopic — having one prosopon / Greek term for “person”) and “One Hypostasis” (monohypostatic — having one hypostasis) in order to emphasize the Council’s anti-Nestorian positions.

Here is one humorous presentation of the potentially complex affirmation of a modern faith. They replied, “You are he who heals our ambiguities and overcomes the split of angst and existential estrangement; you are he who speaks of the theonomous viewpoint of the analogia entis, the analogy of our being and the ground of all possibilities. You are the impossible possibility who brings to us, your children of light and children of darkness, the overwhelming roughness in the midst of our fraught condition of estrangement and brokenness, in the contiguity and existential anxieties of our ontological relationships. You are my Oppressed One, my soul’s shalom, the One who was, who is and who shall be, who has never left us alone in the struggle, the event of liberation in the lives of the oppressed struggling for freedom, and whose blackness is both literal and symbolic.” And Jesus replied, “Huh?”

My point is that the affirmations we have in the New Testament can have a refreshing simplicity.

Do you know what a humanist is? My parents and grandparents were humanists, what used to be called Free Thinkers. So I am honoring my ancestors, which the Bible says is a good thing to do. We humanists try to behave as decently, as fairly and as honorably as we can without any expectation of rewards or punishment in an afterlife ... And if I should ever die, I hope you will say, “Kurt is up in Heaven now.”
That’s my favorite joke. How do humanists feel about Jesus? I say of Jesus, as all humanists do, “If what he said is good, and so much of it is absolutely beautiful, what does it matter if he was God or not?”
But if Christ hadn’t delivered his Sermon on the Mount, with its message of mercy and pity, I wouldn’t want to be a human being. I’d just as soon be a rattlesnake.[14]

Mark 8:31-33 is the first prophecy of the passion. Historically, most scholars agree that the saying is a summary by Mark of his understanding of the gospel message. Some scholars believe Jesus concluded that the Son of Man and Messiah must suffer. Thus, although Mark has framed the prophecy that reflect post-Easter faith, there is no reason to think Jesus could not have thought creatively about his own fate, in light of the prophets, the death of John, and the hostility of Jewish leaders. Jesus may have surmised his fate, but the details may come from the early preaching of the church. We should note that he does not specifically say that this fulfills scripture. Paul will do so in his summary of the gospel message. Though Mark frames the text in the light of post-Easter events, it is likely that Jesus prepared the disciples with the concept of Messianic suffering and later exaltation.  This would mean that Jesus made the unique combination of the Isaiah 53 passage with the apocalyptic hope regarding the Son of Man. In this view, the Son of Man, even as Isaiah 53 points to the later victory of the suffering servant, would find God exalting him. The marks of this Son of Man revealed by Jesus are shockingly different from those anticipated by a long expectant Israel.  Jesus emphasizes his obedience to the divine will and ordinances of God by describing these experiences as things he must undergo.  He shatters the image of a triumphant Messiah and replaces it with the less familiar suffering servant image of Isaiah. 

31 Then he began to teach them that the Son of Man must undergo great suffering at the hands of the religious establishment, such as the elders, the chief priests, and the scribes rejecting him and killing him, and after three days rise again, an action performed by God. The focus is on the suffering, rejection, and death, with only a brief reference to resurrection. Easter is not a way to escape Lent and Good Friday! The cross is still a difficult message to accept. Supposedly, a popular preacher said that one could not succeed today preaching the cross because people already have enough problems. Such a statement is likely a summary of the preaching of the early church.  Paul in I Corinthians 15:3-4 wrote a summary of the core beliefs he received, undoubtedly soon after his conversion, which would have been about three years after the death of Jesus. It contains a summary that relates the death of Christ for our sins “in accordance with the scripture,” and of God raising him to life “in accordance with the scripture.” Luke uses similar terms. In Acts 2:23-24, Jesus the Nazarene received death through the power of the Jewish leaders and the foreknowledge of God, crucifying him through Gentile powers, but God raising him to life, freeing him from Hades, for Hades did not have the power to hold him. In Acts 3:15, Peter again says that they killed the prince of life, but God raised him from the dead. In Acts 3:18, God said through the prophets that the Christ would suffer. In Acts 13:27-31, Paul relates that the people of Jerusalem and their rulers fulfilled the prophets. Jesus was innocent, but they condemned him and asked Pilate to have him put to death. They carried out scripture foretold. Then, they took him down from the tree and buried him in a tomb. However, God raised him from the dead. He appeared to his companions and they became witnesses. Mark summarizes his gospel presentation in the passion prediction.  He knew the two steps of Paul.  This is why Mark composed a gospel climaxing with the cross and the promise of resurrection.  Such predictions are not in Q or in Thomas.  Matthew and Luke agree with Mark that Jesus was destined to die and that the disciples did not understand this.  The early tradition behind the passion story seems simply to have recognized the divine necessity of the innocent suffering and death of Jesus in fulfillment of the prophetic testimonies of scripture, a view we find here. This early tradition contrasts with later theological interpretations that give the death of Jesus an expiatory significance.[15] However, this view of the death of Jesus corresponds well with Galatians 5:2, which says that Christ loved us and gave himself up for us. Much of historical scholarship would not think of Jesus as making crucifixion the goal of his message and ministry.[16] 32 He said all this quite openly. Jesus recites the first of three passion predictions in Mark.  In each of the three passion predictions, this pattern continues: After every reference to his approaching death, Jesus begins a new lesson on discipleship.  Likewise, at the close of each of these discipleship lessons is a scene that testifies to the genuine authority of the messianic identity of Jesus. Given what they now know — that following this one will mean sacrifice, suffering and death — this will be the most challenging journey they will ever make. Peter identifies Jesus as the Messiah, and immediately Jesus turns around and challenges his understanding of whom the Messiah is. This is not what Peter expects to hear. Not only is the prediction of the passion decidedly unwelcome news, but Jesus presents it in a new manner.  When speaking about the rule of God, Jesus usually spoke in parables, told stories, or gave demonstrations to his disciples and the crowds following him.  Now, however, Jesus speaks of the approaching suffering plainly and openly. Jesus presents the passion as a cold, hard fact. This is a private revelation to the disciples.  This lesson of Jesus is one that flies in the face of conventional concepts of success and gain, of winning and losing. Yet, Peter took him aside, doing what Jesus had done to reveal special information to the disciples, and began to rebuke him. The reaction of Peter is life-like and patronizing. He acts as the leader of the disciples. He is not the tenuous disciple, but rather, becomes active. He may even want to protect the other disciples from what Jesus has said. To do so, however, he challenges the authority of Jesus over the disciples and refuses to accept the harsh truth Jesus has stated. It seems hardly surprising that Peter takes exception to the scenario Jesus outlines.  After all, Peter had finally caught on: He had confessed Jesus to be the Messiah.  Instead of congratulating him on his insight or rewarding Peter for his faith, Jesus instead silenced him.  Now, just as Peter was bursting with the Good News of the Messiah, Jesus completely deflates Peter's expectations by foretelling this Messiah's demeaning death.  33 However, turning and looking at his disciples, he rebuked Peter, returning the “favor” Peter gave to Jesus and reasserting his authority, and said, “Get behind me, urging him to accept the proper role of the disciple and to get out of the way, Satan! This suggests that the same temptation he experienced in the wilderness at the beginning of his public ministry is coming back through Peter. The reason is simple: you are setting your mind not on divine things, the divine plan, but on human things,” an ill-informed earthbound view. Jesus emphasizes the contrast between the divine and the human. The private lesson in discipleship is now over. Yet, we must ponder this moment. One might think the identity of Jesus would become clearer. At the same time, they must willingly give up their ideas about the Messiah. From now on, the journey will become increasingly difficult. It is obvious they do not fully get it (9:10, 32; 10:24, 35-45). Even so, they also admit their lack of understanding and seek to learn more (13:4ff).



Mark 8:34-38 is a collection of sayings around the theme of following Christ. They have to do with loyalty and fidelity by the followers of Jesus when faced with circumstances that call for courage and sacrifice. We learn some hard lessons about discipleship here. Yes, salvation is free and a gift. Yet, discipleship will cost you your life.[17] At this point, it becomes quite clear that theology is necessary in order to make preaching as hard for the preacher as it has to be.[18] I will not try to soften the blow. Instead, I will try to make the point as sharp as I can.

34 He called the crowd with his disciples, now wanting to teach that not only are their expectations of the Messiah in need of change, their expectations of faithful following of the Messiah must also change. The profession by Peter is important, but the hinge in Mark occurs with the prediction of the passion for the Messiah and the pattern of discipleship it suggests. Having spoken to the disciples about his identity, he will now share them their identity as disciples and the cost of following him. This instruction occurs while they are on the way to Jerusalem. They are on the way to the cross. This particular road is one that every group of disciples in every generation must walk.[19] Jesus then said the following to them. Let us remember that Jesus called the disciples, saying, “Follow me.” Jesus will now articulate some of the harsh realities that define a discipleship that has the cross in its sights.

First, Jesus says, “If any want to become my followers, let them deny themselves, and their self-centered concerns.  The saying provides the conditions for following Jesus. The first condition we need to meet in order to follow Jesus is to deny the self. Though denying oneself is language we find psychologically familiar today, this was an odd phrase for both the Hebraic and Aramaic ear to hear. The concept of a freestanding "self" was virtually unknown in that ancient Near Eastern culture. Thus, instead of using this text as evidence of an early martyr-complex, it would be more accurate to think along family lines and kinship ties. In that culture, any life of an individual did not define the self. Rather, relationship within the family group defined the self. This kinship group controlled the individual, gave identity and maintained the world within which the individual existed. Thus, the demand of Jesus is radical, something like saying, "Give up your world." Give up the human family that defines you, and instead make Jesus your only family, your only reference point for authority and guidance. Further, disciples must take up their cross.  The second condition to follow Jesus relates to the cross. This statement pulls the individual even farther away from the safety of the family unit. The cross was a Roman image, instantly recognized by any kinship group that had felt the weight of the heavy thumb of Roman rule. Jesus then offers the invitation to follow me.[20] Third condition is to follow Jesus. In context, Peter must be the first to do this, of course. Yet, the way of the cross was for the multitudes and not just for the disciples. To follow Christ involves denial of self in the sense of yielding freely to this total service and therefore refusal to save their lives for themselves. For those who had not heard the private prediction of Jesus concerning his suffering, death and resurrection, these words must have shocked them to their shoes. Jesus lays out requirements for discipleship that go far beyond any usual conversion practices. Jewish proselytes had to decide to accept Jewish faith and law freely, willingly rejecting old pagan relationships and acquaintances. The insistence of Jesus that a potential disciple must not only deny all old familiar ties but must be prepared to suffer horribly because of their identity as a disciple is unprecedented. After two millennia of "cross" imagery, our senses are not as shocked by this reference, as listeners to Jesus must have been. The pain, brutality and degradation of a death by crucifixion ‑‑ including the spirit‑stripping practice of making the condemned "take up his cross" on this final death march to the execution site ‑‑ was a torture reserved for only the most despised of state criminals. Yet this is the very image Jesus chooses to represent as the fate of his most devoted disciples.  This means that each disciple has a cross to take up, rather than to fear, hate, avoid, evade, or escape the affliction that falls on the disciple. Discipleship becomes a matter of each Christian carrying one’s own cross, suffering one’s own affliction, bearing the definite limitation of death that in one form or another falls on one’s own existence.[21] The challenge here is that to follow Jesus, one simply has to renounce, withdraw, and annul, and existing relationship of obedience and loyalty, namely, to oneself. As he sees it, self-denial in the context of following Jesus involves a step into the open, into the freedom of a definite decision and act, in which it is with a real commitment that people take leave themselves, the person of yesterday, of the people they were. They give up their previous form of existence. What matters now is not the self, but to follow Jesus, regardless of the cost.[22] Following Jesus in this service means co-crucifixion with Jesus. Paul, in fact, suggests this in Galatians 2:19-20, where he says that he has been crucified with Christ so that now, his life is a matter of Christ living in and through him. The focus on discipleship is identification with the destiny of Jesus. This view is in keeping with the sayings of Jesus about the discipleship of the cross, in which Jesus required his disciples to bear his cross, but only insofar as they were to bear their own. The bearing of their cross is the consequence of the special calling and sending they received from God. Mark makes clear that Christology and discipleship are inseparable, and that the way of Jesus to the cross is also the way the disciple must follow.[23]

Just as following Jesus means denial, so also it means death. Dietrich Bonhoeffer famously said in his Cost of Discipleship, that when Christ calls us, he bids us to come to him and die. Thomas à Kempis wrote,         

In the Cross is salvation;
in the Cross is life;
in the Cross is protection against our enemies;
in the Cross is infusion of heavenly sweetness;
in the Cross is strength of mind;
in the Cross is joy of spirit;
in the Cross is excellence of virtue;
in the Cross is perfection of holiness.
There is no salvation of soul,
nor hope of eternal life,
save in the Cross. (The Inner Life)
"If you bear the cross gladly, it will bear you" 
(The Imitation of Christ, 2.12.5).

C.S. Lewis wrote (The Four Loves) that if you would love you would suffer. We cannot even love a dog without at one point or another feeling the pain of loss, assuming we outlive the dog. The greatest of all things-love-is itself most intimately bound with suffering. It is a poignant irony, I think. In our attempt to avoid suffering, we cut ourselves off from the one thing that can mitigate it: each other. Anyone who really wanted to get rid of suffering would have to get rid of love before anything else, because there can be no love without suffering, because it always demands an element of self-sacrifice, because, given temperamental differences and the drama of situations, it will always bring with it renunciation and pain. When we know that the way of love, this exodus, this going out of oneself, is the true way by which man becomes human, then we also understand that suffering is the process through which we mature. Anyone who has inwardly accepted suffering becomes more mature and more understanding of others and becomes more human. People who have consistently avoided suffering do not understand other people. They become hard and selfish. We have no literary, psychological, or historical answers to human tragedy. We have only moral answers. Yes, in the face of suffering at the hands of other human beings we may despair. Yet, hope also comes from other human beings.[24]

Second, Jesus offers a secular proverb (Luke 17:33), 35 For those who want to save their life (psyche, life, soul, self) will lose it, and those who lose their life for my sake, and for the sake of the gospel, will save it. Given the context of the taking up the cross, a physical reference is possible here. Yet, we might also ponder the matter of personal identity that animates every individual life. We have a natural desire for self-preservation. We recognize the hint of truth in the saying that to love oneself is the beginning of a lifelong romance.[25] How can one save one’s life by losing it? “Soul,” meaning even if death is the result, the disciples has preserved the true self. The saying expresses the supreme value of the true self. There is no greater gain and no price to one can put upon it. This saying is true first of Jesus. Had Jesus saved his life at the cost of his proclaiming the divine lordship, he would have actually made himself independent of God and put himself in equality with God. He could not be the Son of God by an unlimited enduring of his finite existence. No finite being can be one with God in infinite reality. Only as he let his earthly existence consume itself in service to his mission could Jesus as a creature be one with God. He did not cling to his life. He chose to accept the ambivalence that his mission meant for his person, with all its consequences. He showed himself to be obedient to his mission.[26] Such renunciation is in favor of the living Lord, Jesus Christ.[27]This claim is the form of the Gospel, of the promise of the free grace of God by which alone human beings can live, but by which one may live in the full sense of the term.[28] In a sense, by choosing oneself, one loses what one seeks, becoming supremely non-human. To do so is to give oneself to the pride that is the heart of human behavior.[29] A paraphrase might suggest that those concerned about themselves in discipleship will miss the very thing that Christ assigns to them in discipleship. However, they receive what Christ assigns to them in discipleship if they lose all concern for themselves in discipleship.[30]

Third, Jesus offers some proverbial or secular wisdom. We need to think of it as a rhetorical question. 36 For what will it profit them to gain the whole world and forfeit their life? 37 Indeed, what can they give in return for their life? For both the disciples and the crowds that had been enjoying a journey of triumph and miracles, the new message of Jesus was both sobering and hard. Acquiring the whole world but losing the soul would be a bad exchange.  Both are general statements and would find general acceptance. Jesus offers a pair of rhetorical questions that deepen the new understanding of "self" that his disciples must grasp.  Clearly, Jesus does not consider the "self" to be a false, valueless identity that needs to be shrugged off.  On the contrary, the "self" is beyond all value, and thus can only be freely given and freely received.  The rhetorical question suggests that one can only offer one’s life in response to the gift of life. We cannot have fullness of life by preserving a life defined by the past. We can see here the supreme value of the soul or the true self. We cannot put a price on it. Setting aside our definition of the self will lead to happiness and real living. Such a life is meaningful. As the Prayer of Saint Francis puts it, “For it is in dying to self, that we are born to eternal life.” When we choose the self, we lose what we seek.[31] We renounce the self in favor of Jesus.[32] If we concern ourselves with the self in our practice of discipleship, we will miss the very thing discipleship offers. You will achieve the desire of your heart as a follower of Jesus if you lose your focus upon the self.[33] Adolf Harnack thought with good reason that he had found a Magna Carta of the message of the infinite value of every human soul.[34] We need to give up our citizenship in the world of “me.” Our devotion needs to be to the people and tasks of our lives in order to find life. Much of modern notions of self find their critique here. Many parts of psychology have faith in the pursuit of selfhood as we form our identity. Yet, excessive focusing on our identity is a deformation of the theme of a human life. The goods and tasks of our lives and our openness to God need to be primary and therefore the source of our identity. We can see a parallel in Plato as he suggested that the upright and good are happy, while the pursuit of happiness for its own sake is egocentric and leads us astray. Only those who seek the good for its own sake will find happiness and identity (Gorgias 491bff, especially 506c.7ff and 470e.9f).[35]

These discipleship statements stand at the center of the message of Mark, and they need to stand at the center of the proclamation of the church today. Following Jesus is difficult when our definitions of power and success get in the way. If we, as his followers, try to tell him what he should or should not do, as Peter was attempting, then we have not denied ourselves. If we do not continue with Jesus on the road to Jerusalem, anticipating the cross and its sufferings, with our own cross bar across our backs, then we are not following. It is only after we have turned in our understandings of power and success from a worldly perspective and exchanged them for a power that denies itself, and a success that manifests itself in sacrifice, that we see the role faith plays in this passage.

None of us wants to lose something precious. Our lives are precious to us, or at least, they should be. In particular, if it gives us a sense of security, and we lose it, we will become anxious. Security is important to us.

The notion of denying self is difficult for many people in the West today. I think the difficulty arises from at least two fronts. One is that we have learned how fascinating self is. Whether in spiritual formation or in psychology, we explore the richness and fullness of the self. Two is that studies in addictive and co-dependent behavior have taught us that too often we get ourselves in relationships in which we sacrifice ourselves for no redemptive purpose. Each of these insights makes us justly suspicious of any call to self-denial.

Yet, do you not agree that if we focus too much upon self, if we protect self too much, if we seek security in self, we open ourselves to the possibility of losing who we are? I understand it seems paradoxical. Yet, focusing on saving our lives may well derive from fear. Losing ourselves may well arise out of faith. A large part of learning what you really want in life is learning what you are willing to give up in order to get it.[36] We may find our purpose in life as we take up the symbol of punishment, the cross. We may find our true self as we lose ourselves in following Jesus.

Clearly, such reflections do not lead to safety and security in the traditional sense. We are not in as much control. Yet, I wonder if this type of insecurity may not lead to the greatest security of all – eternal life. It may well be that the greatest lesson one learns in life is that God alone is enough for true life. The lessons we learn in life may lead to nothing other than the crowning discovery of Christian life, that God is enough.[37]

Jesus is saying that we should not value anything more highly than discipleship — even our own lives. Following Jesus is supposed to be our Number One priority, higher than success, security, wealth, health, power, and prestige.

In reading the philosopher Spinoza, in his Tractatus Theologico-Politicus (1670), I wrote down the following reaction to one criticism he had of the church of his day. As a Christian, I find it sad, but also true, that persons who profess their Christianity, and therefore commit themselves to love, joy, peace, temperance, and charity to all people, should also quarrel with such “rancorous animosity,” displaying toward each other “such bitter hatred, that this, rather than the virtues they claim, is the readiest criterion of their faith.” Well, such were the accusations he made against the church of his day. Could it also be true of us?

Let us allow our lives do the talking. Michener, in The Source, has one character comment, “If that man had a different God, he would be a different man.” You know, I hope that statement is true of us.

Theologian Reinhold Niebuhr has a wonderful prayer with this theme.

O Lord, who has taught us that to gain the whole world and to lose our souls is great folly, grant us the grace so to lose ourselves that we may truly find ourselves anew in the life of grace, and so to forget ourselves that we may be remembered in your kingdom.

The section concludes with a sentence of holy law. The final eschatological scene offered here by Jesus reminds his listeners that whatever choice they make, for Jesus or against him, there will be consequences. 38 Those who are ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of them the Son of Man will also be ashamed when he comes in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.”[38]  It is not easy to stand up for our beliefs, especially in a culture that is suspicious of all religion. Daniel 7:13-14 influences it.  Jesus becomes the head of the elect community. This distinctly recognizable literary type promised definite eschatological ramifications to the fulfillment of particular earthly actions.  In general, such statements of "holy law" offered strength and solace to early Christians, many of whom faced horrible persecutions and temptations. In this particular case, however, Jesus gives only the negative side of his "holy law." Here, Jesus attributes the judgment that the Son of Man will pronounce in correspondence to the message of Jesus and hence according to the criterion of confession or rejection of Jesus.[39] The passage draws a parallel between response of people to Jesus on earth and the reception they can expect from the Son of Man.  Here, he is an apocalyptic figure. There is a parallel in Matthew 10:32-33 and Luke 12:8-9. If the disciple has shame of Jesus in this evil and adulterous generation, Christ will be ashamed of them when things turned out differently or they tried to escape the inevitable outcome.[40] Such a saying stands at the beginning of Christian confession. It refers to publicly taking sides in a conflict, in this case, the conflict relating to the message and person of Jesus.[41]

For Mark, faith is an elusive quality. It is necessary for the readers of Mark’s gospel, but faith is an attribute that does not appear in many characters in the text. In this passage, security for life in this world is not readily available, so one must turn to faith. If followers of Jesus really do deny themselves and take up their cross, they must have faith in Jesus that he really can give them more than “the whole world” (8:36). In the midst of the paradox about saving and losing their lives, Jesus exhorts the disciples and the crowd to understand the new option he presents. As Jesus asks, “what can they give in return for their life?” (8:37), he takes the emphasis off worldly gain (8:36) as the result of true success. Those who attempt to exchange their souls in order “to gain the whole world” are identified as the ones of whom the Son of Man will be ashamed “when he comes in the glory of his Father with the holy angels” (8:36, 38). Using human logic rather than faith, the disciples and the crowd could have easily been ashamed of one who had suffered and been rejected by all. Nevertheless, Jesus seeks this kind of power reversal. Suffering and rejection now do lead to power in the future. This power, though, does not have its grounding in the perspective of the world, whose sands shift over time. The passage exhorts the follower of Jesus to this life of power and success, but power and success defined as faith in God through a life of rejection and sacrifice. These motifs will continue to surround Jesus as he makes his way to Jerusalem and actualizes his predictions of suffering and death, but they also surround the church who continues to try to follow Jesus today.

Mark makes clear the nature of the call to discipleship that Jesus offers.  Discipleship is in light of the cross of Jesus.  While Jesus did not say that he was Messiah, he seemed to believe that his mission was to execute the role of Messiah under the title Son of Man.  Why is this?  First, Jesus associated his messiahship with the Son of Man who must suffer and die.  The tragedy of our day is that we still have members in churches who are following Jesus because they feel that he can make them healthy, wealthy, and wise and have forgotten that membership is not discipleship.  Discipleship is costly and if there is no cross there no crown.  Jesus was not talking about a Marxist revolution that might take the form of economic, political, or military changes.  Jesus’ revolution was much bigger.  He wished to overthrow and defeat Satan and evil in order to bring order and peace on earth.



[1] Others, such as Bultmann, view the passage as a profession of faith in the risen Lord. For the Jesus Seminar, it becomes a stylized scene shaped by Christian motifs. In their view, Jesus rarely initiates dialogue or refers to himself in the first person.
[2] (Adapted from James Emery White, Rethinking the Church, Baker, 1997, p. 55-57).
[3] NRSV; “Master,” NEB, Jerusalem)
[4] (Sherman E. Johnson, Matthew; Interpreters Bible [New York: Abington, 1951], 449).
[5] The ho Christos Peter declares may be variously translated as "the Christ," "the Messiah" or "the Anointed One."
[6] (R.T. France, The Gospel of Mark, [Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2002], 327).
[7] Barth, Church Dogmatics II.2 [35.3] 440-3.
[8] (Ralph P. Martin, Mark [John Knox Press, 1981], 45).
[9] Barth, Church Dogmatics III.4 [53.2], 85.
[10] Pannenberg, Systematic Theology Volume 2, 336.
[11] —B.A. Gerrish, “What do we mean by faith in Jesus Christ?” The Christian Century, October 6, 1999, referring to Ernst Troeltsch.

[12] N. T. Wright, Who Was Jesus? [Grand Rapids, MI: Wm. B. Eerdmans, 1992].)
[13] J. A. DiNoia, “Jesus and the World Religions,” First Things, June/July 1995.
[14] —Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without a Country (Random House, 2017), 79-80.
[15] Pannenberg, Systematic Theology Volume 2, 416.
[16] Pannenberg, Systematic Theology Volume 2, 438.
[17] Dietrich Bonhoeffer
[18] Gerhard Ebeling (Word and Faith, p. 424.)
[19] Paul Minear
[20] This saying has parallels in the Gospel of Thomas and in the material common to Matthew and Luke. Many scholars suggest that since it implies a Christian understanding of the cross, it originates in the early church after the resurrection. The Jesus Seminar says this saying appeals to the fate of Jesus as the standard of commitment.  It reflects a time when the Christian community was exposed to the pressures of persecution.  They claim no evidence exists that the cross served as a symbol of radical self-denial outside the context of the crucifixion of Jesus or prior to that event. Further, instead of a soon return of Jesus, the saying seems to expect the cross to be a long-term proposition.
[21]  (Barth, 2004, 1932-67), IV.2 [64.3] 264.
[22] Barth, Church Dogmatics IV.2 [66.3] 539-40.
[23]  (Pannenberg, 1998, 1991) Volume 3, 282.
[24] Elie Wiesel
[25] Oscar Wilde
[26] Pannenberg, Systematic Theology Volume 2, 374-5.
[27]  (Barth, 2004, 1932-67) IV.1 [63.1] 744.
[28]  (Barth, 2004, 1932-67) IV.2 [64.3] 264.
[29]  (Barth, 2004, 1932-67), IV.2 [60.2] 421.
[30]  (Barth, 2004, 1932-67) IV.3 [71.6] 652.
[31]  (Barth, 2004, 1932-67), IV.2 [60.2] 421.
[32]  (Barth, 2004, 1932-67) IV.1 [63.1] 744.
[33]  (Barth, 2004, 1932-67) IV.3 [71.6] 652.
[34]  (Barth, 2004, 1932-67) III.4 [55.1] 387.
[35] Pannenberg, Systematic Theology Volume 2, 249.
[36] Sidney Howard
[37] Hannah Whitall Smith, God Is Enough, 1.
[38] For some scholars, the identification of this figure with Jesus excludes the possibility of it going back to Jesus.  The saying would find particular application to a setting in which external forces forced the followers of Jesus to acknowledge or deny Jesus. The possibility of the words of Jesus causing embarrassment implies the absence of Jesus. Of course, the Gospel of Mark arises out of a community undergoing persecution.
[39] Pannenberg, Systematic Theology Volume 3, 614.
[40]  (Barth, 2004, 1932-67), IV.2 [64.4] 264.
[41] Pannenberg, Systematic Theology Volume 3, 114. 

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